Wednesday, May 13, 2015

re:Daughter Of Lesbian Couple Speaks Out Against Gay Marriage

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5A-Wpzv_8M

Daughter Of Lesbian Couple Speaks Out Against Gay Marriage

 
 
 
 
 
If this daughter of 2 mommies felt like she would have been better off if she grew up with parents who are a Mom and Dad, WHO are these politically correct assholes to dare condem her for telling her experience AND say it's wrong? (espeically which they aren't the least bit privy to)?
+spiralcosmosart Well I should have grown up with Homo Parents!, I was Screaming in the womb, any idiot would know, I was a "Special Baby", That doesn't mean I'm going to go Public & rip my Hetero Parents to  shreads, Heather is a Little Princess with a Daddy Fixation. It's her HUSBAND people should feel sorry for, not her.
You were not in her head when she was a child growing up.  She wished she had a traditional nuclear family.  Something didn't seem right to her without a father.  Her life, her feelings: who are you to judge?     
+spiralcosmosart They aren't condemning her because she spoke out against but because HER DAD LEFT. Her father CHOSE NOT to be apart of her life it has nothing to do with her moms. HER DAD said fuck this and fuck the kid and when he got a divorced disappeared and never wanted anything to do with her. Its like saying well my dog ran away and my parents got a cat so there should a law cause i lost my dog and got stuck with a cat and since it wasnt what i wanted im mad. . .NO her dad was a dick don't blame the fact your mom found love again to make you think you have some resolution. If she had bad parents sure i could see her having an issue if any. . .But the fact that you want dads for people because you didnt have one it is stupid. What if their dad leaves? what is their is a dick? what if their dad acts like yours and says fuck this and moves on? like no having a mom and dad doesnt make it better. And to down your moms who raised you and loved cause your dad didn't want you is shameful and she should feel bad. You just told your mom i know my dad was a dick and left me but i hate you
Heather took after her father, they're both Ass Holes
+Ju'Nelle Brown I'm sure there are some very loving homosexual parents who raise children entirely on their own. And I have nothing against the legality of homosexuals raising children provided they don't abuse them or coerce them into normalizing homosexuality, but she discovered lacking a father was neither optimal nor ideal (all other things being equal). I am a shameless heterocentric person because I happen to believe optimal and ideal (all things being equal) will always be monogamous heterosexual nuclear family. It's a simple matter of gender balance. There are distinct compliment different energies when you are the one who bears a pregnancy, nurses the child with your tits, and the one that simply does the fertilizing. I want familes with 1 biological dad and 1 biological mom for people because there are distinct differences that compliment gender balance. Homosexuality is a bit gender estrangement. I write about this elaborately and do my part to distinguish myself the stereotypical bible thumping homophobes: http://heterocentricpride.blogspot.com/2015_01_01_archive.html
Then what of adoptive parent? single parents, and step parents?  They don't follow your ideal so what of those children who turn out fine from that?  And what of the children who have one of both and are fucked up people? I.E. H.H. Holmes America's 1st serial killer had a biological mom and dad who were good people but didn't pay enough attention to their son. He went on to murder people. (Not saying this is the norm of hetero families) But i'm saying no type of family is better and for her to use the fact she has a deadbeat dad is invalid. What happened to her has nothing to do with the issue she is fighting for she should be making a petition against bad parents or deadbeat dads. Not gay marriage. Her dad sucked and if her mom was straight and divorced her dad he would have still not been there.  I thank you for not being a homophobic but to treat another differently in status based of not being what you want is still prejudice and still just as bad. I don't need someone saying i can have kids that is cool but i think it is better if your kids have a mom and dad. NO, mind your business, if kids are in a loving home then they are in an EQUALLY good home as any other loving home. period. Also Gender is socially constructed so it isnt like men and women arent equal there is no role women and men can specifically play. So what is the balanced of gender? the traditional gender roles that suck and aren't even legitimate? 
History/Sociology Major WIns with logic! 
HMMMM, A major, (but well deserved) Bitch Slapping!) Suck it up spiralcosmosart, Medieval morallity & culture is finally starting to die.
+Ju'Nelle Brown No you don't care about logic. You obviously don't dare take the to read my blog and pay attention to my word choices. And you don't care to look at history and the decline of Roman civilization and the pedophilia and homosexual coercion that went on then. "When put the question is homosexuality a sin?  or Is homosexuality immoral?   I have to be completely true to the reality that I do not know because I can never know what it is to be homosexual, but I do know how suggestible and vulnerable children can be, and I do know how innocent people are sometimes born into the world with some kind of disability or injury with no cure through no fault of their own sometimes. I do know something about heterophobia in the sense that there is always a fear of an unwanted or difficult pregnancy: so when people throw around the buzzword "homophobia" it kind of makes me wonder wtf? WTF makes you so free of heterophobia? as though any alleged homophobia from me is any worse than your own heterophobia? " ESPECIALLY, when you completely disrespect this woman's own personal experience growing up with a biological mom and a stepmom, and no biological dad.  There is population control agendas with all sorts of contaminents in the environment which is part of Agenda 21. Some homosexuals have no problem with me believing this and completely agree because they are completely adult consenting beings in their sex life who know damn well they don't have a choice because their hormones are hardwired and tweaked that way from birth from endocrine disruptors and other contaminents in the environment.  Such homosexuals are not likely to change. [AND I RESPECT THose homosexuals FOR THAT trueness to their identity] But then there are another category of people who insist "don't knock being gay until you try it".    That attitude is prevalent and endemic. It's totally pushed in the propaganda. There is an element that insinuates by the very nature of peer pressure that those who've grown up with bad experiences with the opposite gender can rationalize coping out of ideals and principles of optimum sexuality remaining monogamous and heterosexual, and convince themselves homosexuality is right for them, when in reality they are confused souls.  Those people are fucked in the head. So what ifIbelieve that they're fucked in the head?
+Martha Marvelette Medieval morality? Do you know anything about how the Medieval feudalism and dark ages began? It was the aftermath of the fall of the Roman Empire. History? or herstory? One of the oldest dirtiest tricks of a conquering imperialistic culture that eventually leads to its downfall, which happened in Rome and Greek from the Spartans to Alexander the Great's conquest, is for the men to rape other men and subjegate the boys in pedophile bitch boy coercion (Pederasty) If the American military keeps it's rape culture of men raping other men, we're all doomed. Despite of me saying that, I consider homosexuality to more often than not, especially among those homosexuals who keep their sex life exclusively between adults and don't recruit, to be an untreatable injury or disability from a polluted world full of contaminants known as "endocrine disruptors" and sometimes horrible experiences with the opposite gender or unmet emotional affirmations from the same gender growing up as a child, but that by NO MEANS do I believe most homosexuals have choice to be gay.  Again: I don't judge and blame them for being gay in this mixed up world provided the 4 mentioned principles I listed about (4 PRINCIPLES 1. between adult human beings, 2. mutual consensual and 3. private. 4. prefably non-violent)  I am a libertarian in that regard.  I'm all in favor of legalizing state sanctioned marriage for gays, but find it kind of amusing how a gay man told me once "gay people should have the right to get screwd by the state like straight people."  State approval for what adults sex life is designed to fuck over those who seek such approval and has nothing to do with whether or not they are gay or straight.. But it's stupid to say that homosexuality is never coerced. A lot of adult mutual consenting gay people who are born that way who don't recruit and who are totally against pedophiles are some of the most hospitable selfless people I've ever met because they have solidarity with the crippled and admit to themselves of their crippled less than optimal and ideal conditioned.  If they could suddenly flawlessly grow the opposite sex organs for their lover they'd gladly do so and be heterosexual they would, but often there's no surgery that can ever do that without adverse complications and in such cases I applaud them for their open, out of the closet, claims of complete naturally born gay pride because they really don't have a choice.
Okay first Rome did rape but they also didnt know what homosexuality was at the time. They believed in being with women but they believed that sex was sex it has nothing to do with homosexuality. Most of the boys raped were murdered once they got to old, Also the military rapes women just as often as men so if the military allows rape period it will be an issue. Matter of fact rape is an issue period in america or world wide period of either and all genders. The raping of men has nothing to do with homosexuality sometimes men who consider themselves straight rape both genders.. You are back tracking and seem to be unsure in your views. Granted you can be a little of both but you need to elaborate more if you are going to do so. Homosexuality is no more coreced than heterosexuality which is technically more pushed my media and people's reigious agendas who feel the need to do so.  Now i know no homosexual person who would want to change genders to be with there lovers because their lover would still be gay. Also those people if they feel that way about their bodies they are transgender or bi-gendered. Besides homosexual people have not ideal or optimal situations because are people who try to speak for them, don't allow them the same basic human rights, and want to make them seem 2nd hand compared to straight people. Not because they are born in thw wrong body like you somewhat alluding to. I can tell you as someone who is a lesbian i would never want to be a dude. I am a woman and feel like a woman, i want to be a mom one day, and own a business. but i would never want to change genders to be with my girlfriend......I just want to be with her without people acting like it will some how ruin america or is connected to deep haterd or hurt.
Hopefully you completely consensual homosexuals who are adults advocate against pedophilia and all forms  of coercion..  I try and make myself perfectly clear and draw line that I really respect the homosexuals who are completely against coercion or manipulation of all kinds that cause gender estrangement or gender imbalance (and that's not simply a physical concept about yin and yang energies complimenting each other).    I don't understand any man who would dare donate sperm to bring another bastard into this world, but I've met some bastards who grow up to be good people anyways..
So are you caling children born via the sperm bank to couples of all kinds Bastards? Cause that is uncalled for and not even alright. You should be ashamed to call child that. You deserve no respect if you do. Also i no person homosexual or any sexuality who is a good person who believes in anything pedo. .  .Umm that can be a homosexual or heterosexual thing and only pedos condone it. The fact that you say those things means you have some sick twisted view on homosexuality. Also i have been gay since i born so i have always engaged in homosexual relations (not sex i am waiting till marriage) but kissing, liking, dating etc. SO considering i am in college and my gf is a little older i am consentual and so is she. But what to say of a 16 year old?  I also believe that it is fine to teach kids of different people. Meaning kids are allowed to learn of different family types just like they are races. I dont believe corecing anything. People are who they are and should i be corecing heterosexuality like bigots do?
+Ju'Nelle Brown Oh my, my "Yin Yang" is out of Whack, I feel like such a Bastard. The only real Victim in this story is Heather's Husband, He's stuck with a Childish Psychopath looking for a Father Figure, a Jodi Arias/ Casey Anthony wanna be.
+Ju'Nelle Brown Ju'nelle Brown asks: So are you caling children born via the sperm bank to couples of all kinds Bastards? No, but IF that "sperm bank donor" [a.ka. the biological father who masturbates so some woman can do a turkey baster conception] is not the lover and partner of the mother, who is actively involved in raising the child, yeah that child is a bastard to his biological father. Absolutely no Father = complete bastard. If a child grows up without an example and some positive role model of a father figure and a mother figure loving each other intimately, than that's a debilitating factor that is neither ideal nor optimum for human survival and progress. That doesn't mean the child won't overcome that challenge. And that's why I keep repeating "ideal and optimum" and "all other things equal". Gender balance is very near and dear to my heart and it's a damn shame the world is so mixed up and sick and far from ideal or optimum. Bible thumping sanctimonious asshole fake christians and gender supremacist hating ultra militant homosexuals can both go to hell. It's so disgusting how they throw this buzzword homophobia when the worst homophobia has a pretty twisted heterophobic shadow to it.
+Martha Marvelette Gender balance and of male and female energy is a concept of everything sacred, natural, and holy. And it's not necessarily a sexual thing. Gender estrangement i bad and it happens and with homosexuality: there is an obvious physical component to gender estrangement that is suspect. Homosexuality = 100% sterile sex with no reproductive results.
I'm sorry but you never call a child a bastard. So what if they don't have a dad? If a women decides she can parent alone or if two women decide to have a kid together those children are not bastards. Anyone who would call a child that via such an old-school mentality has no class or any respect given from me. Do yourself a favor and rethink how you talk about children. I for one can't even see anything you say as vaild for you lack all merit now. And having a mom and dad is no better than having two of one or the other or having just one. You sounds like someone i don't want ever teaching parenting to anyone. Not to mention having a gender balance isnt proven to be ideal over any other family dynamic
+Ju'Nelle Brown There's 2 types of coercion: There's overt rape and then there is psychological rape. Homosexuality by default is suspect to whether or not it was coerced because it's a completely 100% sterile form of sex with no chance of continuing the reproduction of the human species. I personally have met homosexuals who leveled with me and said to "I can't be heterosexual" They said they tried to be hetero and wanted to be heterosexual, but it didn't work out for them so they had to come out of the closet.
I have Never "suffered" from Opposite Sex Attraction, I have as much chance of changing my orientation as I do, my eye color.
+Ju'Nelle Brown You say as a lesbian (a female homosexual) you never want to be a dude? Really? If there was such a thing as a detachable biological living penis that would allow either you or your lover to experience what it's like to have a biological penis, where you or her orgasms through the penis, (but you could detach it re-attach it as easily as you do with strap on dildos), you're saying you would never have sex with that?
Good Lord how limited are you "spiralcosmosart", Try having someone eat your Box till your nose bleeds, You'll never want to see another "Penis" for as long as you live!
+Ju'Nelle Brown My mother was an adoptee whose information about her heredity and a lot of my heredity is being withheld by the State of Colorado.  I totally support "Bastard Nation", an advocacy group for adoptee's rights.  I am effectively a bastard for a lot of the emotional support I didn't get from my dad when I needed it the most.   I don't use the pejorative "bastard" to insult or stigmatize children.  I don't taunt children with absent fathers with that term, but let's calll a spade, children ARE better off with both a father and a mother and without a father they are bastards.  If there was a nice concise and accurate  infammatory TRUTHFUL word THAT EXPRESSES the TRUTH about being motherless as at least as bad as being a bastard,  I'D USE THAT WORD TOO.      And I use the to term to raise awareness to importance of having both a good father and mother active as ane essential component in the child's life growing up.   Fuck the politically correct BULL SHIT, by these men hating HETEROphobic feminists  who want to destroy the sacredness of a genderbalanced family.  You've shown your contempt for me CLEAR, and now my contempt for you is CLEAR!   Goodbye Ju'nelle!
Praise the Lord, The Biggest Lesbian of all!!!
Goodbye to you as well. I support that child does not need both to be well adjusted and i am secure in the fact that i think anyone who uses a cuss word to refer to children is not someone i wouldnt not show contempt. For but i hold no contempt i just don't give you any merit which i am allowed to do.
Lesbian Mom should have shopped at the Sperm Bank, she could have avoided the Poor Me Princess Gene that seems to dominate Miss Heathers Life. A Lesbian daughter would have been so much easier too!
+Martha Marvelette I get it? Sounds like a bunch of heterophobic misandronist hate rhetoric Men are just sperm donors? Just milk em' for their gism? Don't have any true bonding between the 2 complimentary and opposite genders.
+spiralcosmosart Any "Bond" between 2 Loving Parents is a good thing, It doesn't depend on the Orientation of the couple. Heather's Daddy didn't want to be anything more than a "Jizz" donation, he was smart, Heather is a simpering, spoiled cry baby, I'm sure Daddy's life was much better without her.

Tuesday, April 14, 2015

heterocentric reality versus wikipedia's politically correct demonization of heterosexuals

heterocentric heterosexual reality versus wikipedia's politically correct demonization of heterosexual idealist/optimists like me:

Here's as simple as it gets for me: Since homosexuals don't reproduce by themselves naturally, heterosexuality, especially monogamous heterosexuality, seems perfectly ideal and optimum for the human race: all other things equal!

Human reproduction seems hindered, convoluted, complicated, and prone to problems that are not as likely to occurr if 1 adult man and 1 adult woman loved each other for life and produced children from that union.  It's a simple matter of the closest distance between 2 different opposite complimentary reproductive ingredients and a loving wholesome understanding between those who have that reproductive experience.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosexism 04-14-2015 12:23 PST

Heterosexism

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Heterosexism is a system of attitudes, bias, and discrimination in favor of opposite-sex sexuality and relationships.[1] It can include the presumption that other people are heterosexual or that opposite-sex attractions and relationships are the only norm[2] and therefore superior. Although heterosexism is defined in the online editions of the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language and the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary as anti-gay discrimination and/or prejudice "by heterosexual people"[3] and "by heterosexuals",[4] respectively, people of any sexual orientation can hold such attitudes and bias, and can form a part of internalised hatred of one's sexual orientation.[5] Heterosexism as discrimination ranks gay men, lesbians, bisexuals and other sexual minorities as second-class citizens with regard to various legal and civil rights, economic opportunities, and social equality in many of the world's jurisdictions and societies. Heterosexism is often related to homophobia.

Monday, April 13, 2015

LBGTQ / Homosexual customers or fans of SpiralCosmosArt are welcome to decorate their weddings with it.


LBGTQ OR Homosexual customers of my art are welcome to decorate their weddings or homes with my art.  You're all free to do so.  Penn Jillette put it perfectly right here:

"there is more to gay sex than cake and flowers.  these people are not being asked to engage in gay sex or even endorse gay sex" - Penn Jillette





A lot of my artwork is heterocentric and might turn off a lot of LBGT people, but please don't let that think you are unwelcome to download and alter free samples of my art http://spiralcosmosart.deviantart.com regardles of who you are, I don't discriminate:
A customer is a customer whose business with the product once the transaction is given is his own damn business, but just don't expect me to go out of my way to design slogans like  "double dong strap on banging is fun between 2 women" or "hershey highway pounding partnership is fun between 2 men."   

Here on the comments page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj2AznoBs10

is where I get into an argument with a bible thumbing bigot.



+ProSecondAmendment http://heterocentricpride.blogspot.com/ Basic Sexual ethics: 1. Between adult humans 2. mutual consensual and 3. in Private. 4. and hopefully non-violent. It is the intent of SpiralCosmosArt to ask that extreme right wing bible thumping conservatives who hate non-heterosexuals/homosexuals/transgenders/queers/lesbians/bisexuals etc. and extreme left wing liberals who want to militantly push the extreme opposite agenda and suffer from heterophobia to consider that sometimes non-heterosexuality (queering / homosexuality/ and transgenderism) is coerced by “endocrine disruptors” that tweak and permanently warp the hormones of such people for life http://www.drcurtisduncan.com/2014/11/homosexuality-and-chemical-manipulation.html, and a lot of other causal factors that are open to debate, often from cruel dirty tricks of competition, abuse, and coercive population control agendas, being completely respectful of the fact that there is good scientific reason that most people's sexual orientation really is a result of being“born that way” and they really “don't have a choice”, and cannot change and are human beings who deserve human rights like anyone else, including whatever perceived blessings they expect to get out of a State sanctioned “marriage”, or even adoption rights of children if there is no monogamous heterosexual role models or family life available and they would otherwise be abused: 4 ethical principles of sex are never violated: 1. Between adult humans 2. mutual consensual and 3. in Private. 4. preferably non-violent

+ProSecondAmendment There is no worse demonic perversion than the perversion of humungous Corporate Agribusinesses like Syngenta and Monsanto that pollute the environment with hideous chemicals. These people coerce homosexuality and they are the real pedophile culprits far worse than those born with the unfortunate incurable birth defects of homosexuality.

+spiralcosmosart I agree with you on the evils of corporations but homosexuality is nothing more than an act of rebellion against the moral truth. It is far from genetic but merely demonic influence within a persons life. They can choose to obey the temptation of perverse immorality or not.

+ProSecondAmendment My question is who is more evil?  Someone who works for an employer who poisons the population with toxins that cause the scientific birth defect of homosexual tendencies?   The Pedophiles who secretly coerce people into homosexuality?  Or do you point fingers at the the adult homosexuals who are completely consensual and mongamous and tell them they are cursed and vile when they're only the tip of the iceberg.  My own conservative Christian Aunt is married to a shill for the Syngenta corporation in Illinois.  Their children (my cousins) and them are all good heterosexual Christians, but they are complacent greedy idiots who coerce homosexuality / transgenderism worse than a lot of homosexuals, because their employer pushes atrazine and glyphosphate and endless monoculture gmo corn.  

+spiralcosmosart The wicked heart corrupts our food supply for the love of money. But you're saying that toixns create homosexuality. That's just not a scientific fact. I agree toxins cause birth defects but morals are different than physical issues. It's a spiritual issue and both are playing God. One is playing God with other people's food and homosexuals are playing God in claiming they can have unions outside of the design God created us to have.

From what I understand on the topic of "endocrine disruptors" it's entirely plausible that toxins in the environment is all part of U.N. Agenda 21 population control. I don't believe it is God's plan for anyone to be homosexual either, but if all you do is condem homosexuality without critically considering coercive factors about gender estrangement, mating competion, and   pedophilia, you're no Christian at all.  From what I understand about the true Jesus, he lived in the time of a wicked "civilization" known as the Roman empire when homosexuality and sexual vices were going virile as such sins and immoral behavior are going virle  now. And there's the story when Jesus  saved a prostitute from being Stoned to death knowing she was a whore and slut, but also knowing she was human and didn't deserve to be stoned to death, especially by people who were also sinners.

+spiralcosmosart I'm not going to debate the facts on homosexuality. The Word of God is also a history book and throughout every other history book, we know homosexuality has ALWAYS been immoral LONG BEFORE any toxins, gmo, agenda 21 was ever in existence. Nice try though. It's not against a person choosing to walk in sin as we all are dealing with sin and need to repent.  I am against homosexuality trying to push their agenda, and immoral perverse teachings and laws on our children and society. Even entering the churches today and spreading lies as if Homosexuality is anything God would ever accept into His Kingdom. That is a lie. Stay in the closet or choose to come out which will always give society the right to tell you what is right and wrong. They will be told the truth as it is written in the Word of God form the Old to the New testament.  It's a sin unlike any other where you might not be murdering someone but you are spreading a lifestyle that is extremely destructive and I will never allow this agenda or any agenda for that matter including agenda 21 to ever have it's way of deception without being exposed for what it really is. I think I proved your theory 100% incorrect seeing everything you used to defend homosexuality did not exist 100 years ago so now you must think of what might have influenced the gene pool back in the days of Sodom and Gomorah seeing Monsanto was nowhere to be found. lol I can point you in the right direction of what truly does influence someoone to be homosexual and I assure you it is NOT related to anything you mentioned. It is a spiritual demonic influence involving the spirit of rebellion as one of the stronghold Principalities. If you google just those words you will find some who have great insight and teachings on how to be delivered from Homosexuality through deliverance. It is a demonic oppressing spirit that drives people into this lust. Of course there are foods that can raise or lower our estrogen and testosterone levels but c'mon now. I'm fully aware of these things from a nutritionist stand point and there is NO WAY the spirit, soul and heart of a man can start to get gay tendencies because of a chemical or toxin. Homosexuality is a spiritual issue.

No I'm not here to debate either: You write: "....... so now you must think of what might have influenced the gene pool back in the days of Sodom and Gomorah " Perhaps maybe back then it was a debaucherous hedonistic orgy of a city that went horribly wrong? So what? No I wasn't there back in those ancient biblical times then and neither were you or were you. So I don't discredit the weird perverse peer pressure and propogganda in the media that goes on in Hollywood elsewhere. So what's your solution? A solution I think we can both agree on, is PREVENT CHILD ABUSE!, especially violence and PEDOPHILIA (whether heterosexual or homosexual). Supervise your children. Don't leave them alone with some creepy suspicious unknown babysitters or weird children. Don't leave them on overnights at some stranger's home. Spend Quality time with your children. Teach your children or the adults in your family and friends that have children that children's private parts are truly private and have their place in a lawful marriage when they become adults. And be an example that Mommy and Daddy do indeed love each other and respect the opposite gender so they see heterosexual monogamy as adults is obtainable and moral.

+spiralcosmosart We won't agree on anything if you don't agree that homosexuality is immoral on an absolute moral standard. As I said before, it's a spiritual matter that can be dealt with in truth and spirit. A true church will help people with this but it must not continue to be an outward rebellion against God's commandment and design for mankind.

pedophilia (heterosexual or homosexual) will always be far more immoral than adult homosexuality.  Pedophilia is a major cause of homosexuality.     Yeah I can use the word "immoral" and bring out my sanctimonious religion to describe something that I think is sick and wrong like homosexuality?  So what?  Does that make it so I'm doing my part to prevent homosexuality from happening it any worse or better than you?  It's just a word. I wish you luck educating society to prevent gender estrangement and all the rest of everything that makes normal heterosexuality difficult.  

+spiralcosmosart Yes pedophilia is no joke but if you look at the rebellious ways of the homosexual agenda, you can clearly see how the end result in it's teachings and influences, has in itself the destruction of children so no matter what you find more evil, it's all very bad for the heart and mind of a child. You cannot minimize homosexuality. That's the bottom line here, as well as you cannot minimize the control they are trying to push on those with religious convictions and I will not tolerate this type of nonsense pushed on my family or friends. As you can see in Indiana and this case, people are not going to tolerate it one bit and if homosexual supporters want a war against Christian conservatives they're going to eventually lose once and for all if it means blood shed because those who fought to live in a free country are still going to fight to make sure we keep it. No antichrist laws are going to take our fundamental foundation away from us without blood.

+ProSecondAmendment I don't believe for a moment that all homosexuals rationalized and learned to enjoy their perverted form of sex in an overnight sudden decision. There were factors in their life (often abuse from the opposite gender or some kind of birth defect) that manipulated and coerced an aversion for sex with the opposite gender. And you so called Christians have a responsibility to keep pedophiles (who are often wolves in sheeps clothing) out of your churches and out of schools and other places where children are liable to be left alone with predators. How do you ever expect at risk children (children from overworked low-income families) to resist pedophile grooming or learn to report pedophiles in schools and churches, when you're so busy condeming these adult homosexuals and other failures of puritanical standards that fall short of your ideal family life? If you can't get off your sanctimonious high horse you're liable to pressure the child victims to never report pedophiles soon enough because they're afraid of the stigma on them . Yeah sure some weird normalization from society and peer pressure probably takes it's toll too and in that sense, a homosexual act is a choice and a bad choice. Some people are meant to learn lifes lessons the hard way. Tough love for them.

+spiralcosmosart Listen idiot. I knew you were a troll the minute you tried to bold face lie about chemicals causing homosexuality. Next to the "homosexuality is genetic" evolution lie that was proven a lie years ago. Shut your ignorant mouth already. You're comparing evils only to change the subject on this channel. We're not dealing pedofiles here nor rapists nor murderers not stealing. We are dealing with HOMOSEXUALS trying to push Christians around with bogus laws that violate our God given rights. Pedophiles are not the issue here and the church you refer to with a history of pedophiles is not Christian but the Roman Catholic church. A big difference you need an education on. Don't try to put all Christians in the same box or you can get your teeth kicked in real quick. There is pedophiles in all walks of life, all beliefs and has nothing to do with those who are walking in the age of accountability, walking in rebellion. Now take a hike with your manipulating nonsense. I can't stand debating idiots like you who don't have a leg to stand on yet continue to run their mouth to try and cause confusion.  I would have kept it nice but you opened your punk ignorant mouth pointing the finger at Christians. I saw it coming but I waited and the truth comes out eventually. You can't hide from the spirit of discernment. Sooner or later you were going to be exposed. Now scram troll boy

is your church the Westboro Baptist Church by any chance?

+spiralcosmosart Far from it but I rest my case on exactly who you are. You have been exposed here this day scum bag. Nice try though attempting to pursuade the masses into beliving your lies. God has put me here on this earth to expose people exactly like you. You have two choices and none other. 1 repent and be saved 2 Rebel and be cast into the pit which is the lake of fire to serve as a remembrance to those who were saved by mercy and grace through repentance. Your arrogant excuses blaming Christians or anyone but your self for that matter , won't save you either. You have been warned.

Before I repent and am saved by the commanding authority of such an absolute emmissary and messenger of the true and one and only Jesus Christ, who you claim to know more about than me.  Whose physical form has been dead for over 2000 years.  Could you at least show your halo and prove to the world the sun really does shine out of your ass?

+spiralcosmosart Run along scum bag. I'm not even reading your replies anymore. You were exposed. bye now rookie shill. lol
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